Showing posts with label Nora Paley. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Nora Paley. Show all posts

Wednesday, December 10, 2014

On the Occasion of Grace's Birthday-----

Sienna Paley:
for my grandmother's birthday












I was in three worlds. I remember playing with these small action figures in my grandmother's living-room. The action figures would be on their farm, riding horses. My body would be distracted playing with them. Although my mind would be engaged by my grandmother, Grace playing a tune on the piano and humming.

From Duncan Nichols
Duncan, son of Bob Nichols, Grace's partner. Anyone who wants to create a yearly, other-yearly, reading for Grace (or Bob and Grace) I'd come, or I'd help organize. telephone 802 281 2692. We should be having readings of their work

Duncan's memory of life in Thetford for Grace and Bob:
I am thinking of Grace sitting in her kitchen, jotting things down. Bob is upstairs shuffling around, busy like her, at writing/tidying. Grace is sweeping small piles of house dirt, leaves, pens, bob's boot clogs, paperclips, dust, and leaving them in opportune places. Bob comes down from upstairs. He goes outside, sharpens something, dumps some ashes from the stove, brings in a bag from the car for Grace, comes back in, plunks self down and opens some letters. Grace clatters a soup pot, takes out a big block of cheddar, boils the water for tea (or Bob boils the water and Grace opens letters). Grace looks at a packet of garden seeds. "I should have planted these carrots, Bob"  "You did wonderfully, Grace." "I can't plant them now, it's so wet. It's wetter than last summer, or is it still spring." "You can plant them in the rain." "Oh YOU could and get mud all over the place, Bob."  "Did you see this letter from so and so?"   "Oh, yes, isn't that terrific."  "I remember so and so in Germany, in Sweden, in El Salvador, in Russia, in Ireland, in New York, in Burlington, in Cape Cod, in where was that?"  "it was right here."  "Oh yes, I just wanted to clean up the place, and we had no crackers... but we had cheese, we had wine, we had tea, we had photographs of the children, of the children all over the world..."  "have you seen my glasses"   "they're right here, under your sweater."  "Oh, you're so great, you know that, you're so won-der-ful."

From Bea Gates:
“Banner” dedicated to Bob, and “Oak, November” for Grace.

Banner
for Bob
1. Bob wore salvia in his blue
    shirt's buttonhole,
    brilliant summer lasting in Grace's
    garden. Red as red can be.

2. There are three beds of salvia, flaming ovals
    at the end of the drive
    where Elsa lives on the family dairy farm
    in the old stone house next to the barn.
    She sells eggs, stacked in the deep doorway,
    and vegetables on the card table by the road, honor system.
    She laughs about her high beds of salvia--
    everyone comes up the drive to talk about them--
    "You'd think there were no more flowers in the world."

3. A banner year for salvia
    and I kept thinking as the fall wore on,
    past Grace--how she always watched the spaces between
    pulling to make room for every kind,
    how the smaller buds must miss her hand,
    zinnias popping heads and tough pale stems,
    blue pansies curling to sun without her.
    The vegetable garden just over the lip of the hill,
    tomatoes still coming, long squash, and pumpkin,
    beans gone by, and Bob tramping by, walking slowly
    looking up    at the curving line of trees
    looking down    hands in pockets
    at the thick flower tangle--
    the salvia upright
    announcing triumph
    because it knows death
    alive   alive. 
--Beatrix Gates
______________________ 
Oak, November
for Grace
There’s an oak leaf, one    caught in the latch on the door
lodged like a letter in a letter box.
It knocks slowly, eight-prongs    the wind
tips it back, head leaning away    stem like a tail,
wind knocking softly    turning over the life of a tough brown leaf.
Stronger than a grasping hand, it takes years
for the veins to dissolve to brittle lace and still not want
to search the good brown dirt.
How did it? Why did it come so near the end? The oak.
From the bathroom window,
green rubber gloves across the sash
splay fingerless in crumpled, inside-out positions.
The leaf waves again.
The handsavers grow lazier and may have to go
in the trash bucket before the next cleaning.
I study the oak      the many kinds of brown
graying and reddening oak across the clearing.
The message will open, and I will not have touched the veins.
I write a friend whose blood is not making enough
more real blood    the kind that carries what we need
to every extremity in a day.   I spill out, too much on the page.
The oak scratches a life into the soft wind.

I wanted to send word, tell her I got the message--
you don’t have forever you know.  
--Beatrix Gates
(appeared in Ploughshares)

Garrison Keillor:
It's the birthday of American short-story author Grace Paley (books by this author), born in New York City (1922). She grew up in an immigrant neighborhood in the Bronx, where she was surrounded by a wide variety of languages. Her own parents spoke Yiddish and Russian at home, and English in public. She loved to hear the different tongues, and especially loved listening to all the gossip, but when she first started writing poetry, she wrote in a formal, stilted British style because she thought that's what poems were supposed to sound like. Then, in college, she met W.H. Auden and he agreed to read her work. She later recalled: "We went through a few poems, and he kept asking me, 'Do you really talk like that?' And I kept saying, 'Oh yeah, well, sometimes.' That was the great thing I learned from Auden: that you'd better talk your own language."
She wrote while her children were at school, and eventually moved from poetry to fiction. She wrote three stories and showed them to her friend, who happened to be married to an editor at Doubleday. He told her that if she could write seven more, he would publish the collection. Her first book was The Little Disturbances of Man (1959), and it was full of the voices of the immigrant women in her Greenwich Village neighborhood. She only wrote three books in all, but she was always busy doing something: teaching, or giving talks, or engaging in political activism.
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From Nora Paley:
Today is my mother's birthday although she thought it was the 10th for most of her life. In this photo -a march against the Iraq War -she was feeling very weak and very determined though never stopped thinking about the lives of the grandchildren and the beauty of the world.

Joel Kovel writes:
"What sticks in my mind just now about Grace is how lightly she bore the burden of fame. There was a simplicity about her that allowed her to be directly herself and transcendently universal in the same moment. That's why I write, "just now," above: a great soul like Grace is always to be renewed. How her parents must have sensed something when they named her "Grace"!"

Susan Brooke Stapleton
Happy birthday Grace.... miss your beautiful spirit.

Pati Hernandez:
Happy birthday my dear friend Grace..... Always missing you, yet always with me....

Linda Elbow remembers:
"...the celebration of her being named Poet Laureate of Vermont. It took place in the Representatives Chamber of State House.  After Governor Jim Douglas introduced her, Grace stood up to speak. Douglas put behind the podium a little stool for her to stand on.
When she came to see our circuses she as always sat on the ground in the front row.
Oh, Grace!

…..What's that beautiful poem that Grace wrote about sitting outside and watching Bob work and thinking how much she loved him? There might have been a grandchild in this poem too."

Nora found it:
Here I am in the garden laughing
an old woman with heavy breasts
and a nicely mapped face

how did this happen
well that's who I wanted to be

at last a woman
in the old style sitting
stout thighs apart under
a big skirt grandchild sliding
on off my lap a pleasant
summer perspiration

that's my old man across the yard
he's talking to the meter reader
he's telling him the world's sad story
how electricity is oil or uranium
and so forth I tell my grandson
run over to your grandpa ask him
to sit beside me for a minute I
am suddenly exhausted by my desire
to kiss his sweet explaining lips. 


John Bell wrote:
 " I think the new Modicut Puppet Theater project Great Small Works is doing (for example our performance tomorrow night at YIVO), and our commitment to understanding activism, theater, and modern Yiddish culture, is, at heart, deeply indebted to the direct inspiration Grace has given us, individually and collectively."

Dr. John Bell
Director, Ballard Institute and Museum of Puppetry
Associate Professor, Dramatic Arts Department
University of Connecticut

1 Royce Circle, Suite 101B

Storrs, Connecticut  06268

Friday, October 23, 2009

Massachusetts Review publishes Grace Paley issue

The Massachusetts Review is continuing its 50th birthday celebration with a special issue honoring the late Grace Paley.
An activist, poet and award-winning master of the short story, Paley died in 2007. She is best known for two story collections: The Little Disturbances of Man (1959) and Enormous Changes at the Last Minute (1974). In recent years she was a frequent participant in the campus' Juniper Summer Writing Institute. Guest-edited by Dara Wier, Chris Bachelder, Noy Holland and Lisa Olstein, the issue includes manuscript pages, photos, previously unpublished interviews, previously uncollected fiction and essays and many remembrances of the iconic iconoclast Paley was and is.
Among the contributors are Grace Paley, Nora Paley, Lisa Olstein, Noy Holland, Jules Chametzky, Mark Doty, Chris Bachelder, Padget Powell, Terry Gross, Naomi Nye, John J. Clayton, Matthew Zapruder, Gillian Conoley, Faye S. Wolfe and Gordon Lish.
Massachusetts Review is available in Amherst at Hastings, Amherst Books and Food for Thought Books, and in Northampton at Broadside Bookshop. Copies may also be obtained from the MR office in South College, 413 545-2689.

Sunday, June 21, 2009

All My Habits Are Bad: Interview from 1998

BY A.M. HOMES | Grace Paley is the sagacious elf of American letters; her spirit, both in person and in her work, is a magically contagious amalgam of compassion and incredible honesty. In three volumes of short stories, she's chronicled the lives of her now-infamous characters -- mostly women, often leftists, Jewish and living in New York City -- as they struggle with marriages, friendships, political beliefs and motherhood. In 1994, her "Collected Stories" won the National Book Award, and this year Farrar Straus and Giroux published her first collection of nonfiction, "Just as I Thought."
Paley's style is inimitable, combining the political and the personal into fictions stunning for their clarity, precision and brave optimism -- always wry, smart and packed with good advice and a profound understanding of the complexities of the heart. Now 75 and "an old Jewish American writer lady," Paley divides her time between New York and Vermont, where she lives with her husband, landscape architect and writer Robert Nichols. We spoke as Paley was preparing for a trip to Vietnam: "I'm going to bring my life around in a circle in some way and see what's happening now -- it's been 30 years." Paley's activism these days has shifted from marching on Washington and passing out leaflets in Washington Square Park to giving talks: "Because I am older ... part of my political work, really, is to tell how it is and how it was."

What do you think a writer's job is?

I don't think every writer has the same job. It depends where you are in history. If you're Charles Dickens, your job is to really tell people, give 'em the news about parts of their society that they don't know about or see. In general, I think -- it's what a writer does naturally -- you write.

Do writers have a moral obligation?

Oh, I think all human beings do. So if all human beings have it, then writers have some, too. I mean, why should they get off the hook? Whatever your calling is, whether it's as a plumber or an artist, you have to make sure there's a little more justice in the world when you leave it than when you found it. Most writers do that naturally, see that more lives are illuminated, try to understand what is not understood and see what hasn't been seen.

Is it easier to tell the truth in fiction than in nonfiction?

In nonfiction you're striving insanely for accuracy, and in fiction there's no way of knowing if you're accurate or not, since you're making it up. So, in that sense, it's easier. When you write a nonfiction piece -- which I have on occasion -- I really feel the terrible obligation for that accuracy, because of the people involved. I don't feel I have to be that accurate in storytelling. I mean, I have no people to be accurate against.

Does your writing voice change when you're writing fiction or nonfiction?

I think it's pretty much the same. I have this nonfiction book coming out, and some of it is things that are real reports. I went to Vietnam in '69, and I just tried to tell everything I saw. So that's one way of doing it, a journalistic way. And there are some other things, where I've tried to figure out what really happened, or what it's all about -- and those are more essay-like. I hate the word "essay," because I can't imagine writing an essay. It seems like such a deliberate aesthetic act, and I'm not -- I don't seem to be like that.

How do you know when something should be a story, or a poem, or something else?

Sometimes when I start there's a strong language feeling. I don't know for two or three sentences. But by the third line, or third sentence -- it might take me that long to know whether it's gonna be a poem or a story. If the narrative sense predominates by that point -- it's really shoving to get out -- then it's a story.

And what would make it nonfiction?

Well, if we make it a poem, it would be that I was still trying to figure out what was gonna happen next, so that's not a narrative event. But, as far as the thing being an essay, or an article -- I think I always know what I'm doing. I mean, I know that's what I'm writing.

I was hoping you could talk a bit about your writing voice, which is so distinctive.

Voice is very important to me. It may not be so important to others, but until I was able to get that voice -- which I may have had in ordinary speech as a young person, but I didn't get in prose or poetry, even, until my mid-30s, late 30s -- I couldn't really write. I don't even know how people can write if they don't find their voice, their language. It's a mystery to me. But one of the ways I did do it was, I began to write in different voices -- I didn't use my own voice. So a lot of my early stories -- which really were the first stories I wrote -- were really writing from some guy's point of view. I mean, maybe the second story I wrote was from some guy's point of view, and the first one was from an older man's. And then from a young kid's. So I tried, and using those voices I think I was saying: I don't know how it works. But I was able to really speak in my own voice and develop my own voice.

You once said that writing the truth was to remove all lies.

Well, to me, revision is that -- you get closer and closer to what you really mean to say. Because I don't know how you're working now, Amy, but for me, even to this day, every one of my first drafts is still terrible. They haven't improved over the years, somehow. I really have to go through and take stuff out.

I remember you saying you wrote a book every 10 years; are you a very slow writer or were there always so many other things going on?

There really is a lot going on -- raising children, political activities, teaching -- and it's also that I never developed good habits. My husband, Bob, always says, "Grace doesn't have a single habit." I do have habits [laughs]. It's just all my habits are bad.

How did you learn to write?

I didn't -- I just wrote poetry. I wrote poems as a kid, and I read a lot. That's how I learned to write. And I listened a lot, too. I read a lot, and I listened a lot.

Did you keep a journal?

I don't keep a journal, but I do write on pads. And I have a book that I write in, sometimes five days in a row and sometimes once a month. But that's not a journal, really. I don't know if it is or isn't.

Do women write different kinds of stories than men?

There's a lot more domestic conversation, if you want to call it that -- or personal. Women are -- most women are easier about being personal with one another than most men. They tell each other more, and they have a lot of common problems. One of the things is -- I've never really said this -- but one of the things that has interested me is that women have bought books by men since forever, and they began to realize that it was not about them, right? But they continue, with great interest, because it's like reading about another country. Now, men have never returned the courtesy.

In a lot of your stories, the women go for long walks and talk -- do you still go for long walks?

Not so much. We live on a hill. I walk down, but then I have to walk back up.

Where are your political energies focused now?

In a funny way, they're more generalized. Because I am older, and because I do go around and speak -- more than I did when I was young -- part of my political work, really, is to tell how it is and how it was. I go to a school to talk about literature, and somebody says to me, "I hear you're a political person. What do you think about --?" So I find myself talking about the arms trade, which is a great horror to me. Right now I almost think of that more than a lot of other things. What we're doing is putting guns into the hands of people who will eventually shoot us. And the money made from it, and the outrageousness of it, and selling stuff to people who should be spending the money on other things -- those are things that really concern me a lot.

Are there specific projects that you're working on in that part of your life?

Just doing some writing about it. All my old-lady friends are in New York. Those are people with whom, if something hit us, we would just get together and act on it. There's a limited amount of direct action that I do now. Right now what I'm doing is really giving witness to my life.

I'm curious to hear where you think the women's movement is these days.

The women's movement? It's been pretty successful, in a lot of ways. And I think that a backlash has to happen because a lot of people were made unhappy by the women's movement, mostly men, and it's put them in a bad mood. And also some women. You know, there's a lot of self-made women that really hate the idea that there was a movement that helped them get ahead. In that group of saddened males, if I can put it that way, and proud women -- that whole mixture -- there has to be a reaction, right? Something good has happened, or something has happened, and you have to have a reaction to it. It's a dialectic.

It has to happen that they're gonna get mad at you, just as, naturally, there's gonna be a backlash on abortion. The thing to do is to see it as a backlash on sexual life. Abortion is a very small part of it, although it's very important. But what this really is about is the sexual life of women, and the establishment -- the institutions, like the Church -- they're not gonna take the absence of their power lightly. They want to get back their power over our sexual lives, more than anything else. And once we recognize that, people would feel less defeated, and they would be able to spring forward again. So I think the main thing is for older people to talk to the young ... and I include you now in older people. I guess the point I want to make is that my obligation, and yours -- and Nora's, my daughter, is to show the youth how far they've come. And they have. What, a girl of 18 isn't way ahead of anybody at 18, 20 years ago? There's just no question about it. And what girl of 18 would like to go back? By saying, "I'm not a feminist," if that's what they want to say, then that means they're willing to go back.

I found an old interview where you described yourself as somewhat of a combative pacifist and a cooperative anarchist. How would you describe yourself now?

Well, probably pretty much the same, you know? I still have those strong feelings, but I also have strong feelings for the importance of people working together and the importance of different levels of government. And, at the same time, you know, I am a pacifist, but I am somewhat combative. I shouldn't say "but," because most pacifists are "and combative."

I always thought of you as the perfect feminist -- you enjoy the company of women, and yet you also really enjoy the company of men.

Yeah, sure. But the fact that I was a feminist made some men angry at me, to this day. And the fact that I like men made some women angry at me. You're who you are.

Do you think of yourself as an experimental writer?

I think most writers that are serious are experimental. They all have to figure out new forms every time they write. Bob and I were just talking about this. He was saying, "Goddammit, with this book I forgot how to write." And I said, "Then you forget that we've both said to each other, whenever we start a new piece: 'How come I thought I could write? How am I gonna do this? How am I gonna write this fucking story?'"

What makes a story for you?

What makes a story? Well, you have to have movement, right? Some people call it plot. Plot is movement that is extremely deliberate. So I would say that I'm for movement, but I'm not for terribly deliberate movement. And at some point, you come to the end of what you have to say. There's pleasure, also, and play. Something different makes every story. Sometimes you like tying up the knot. Sometimes you like to leave it wide open, for people to imagine and to do what they want with it.

As women get older, they seem to gain a kind of freedom; do you feel freer?

Well, they do. You do feel freer. I don't know about writing. I think one's freest almost at the beginning, when you really don't give a shit. And you have to watch that freedom and keep it. You must keep it. You can lose it. You have to keep not giving a shit. But, on the other hand, in ordinary life you're freer in talking up, saying what you think. You're freer in who you talk to. The only thing you're not freer in is yelling at your children. You have to stop at a certain point. Like when they're 35.

Any thoughts on aging? What do you think about it?

My general feeling is that, if you're healthy and you have enough money to live decently -- if not flagrantly -- getting older is OK. I mean, I don't mind it at all. What I mind, of course, is that my time is getting short, that I won't see my youngest grandchild grow up -- those things that you're gonna miss. I remember my father feeling like that. I have a poem about it -- he knew he wasn't gonna see the end of the Vietnam War. He said: "Goddammit, I'll never know how they got out." There's a lot you won't know. And there's sadness because your friends are dying. And with the terrible things in the world, with the idea that you're gonna leave the world maybe worse than you found it -- I don't like that feeling at all.

But if your health is good, and you have a habit of looking at each day as a whole day -- unless you drop dead at noon or something -- then every day you live something interesting. It's interesting because you either meet a new tree or if you're in the city, you meet a new person. Or something happens. The sun shifts on the mountain -- very beautiful things happen.
SALON | Oct. 26, 1998